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INVESTOR CONTACT: MEDIA CONTACT: Frank Morgan Harlow Sumerford 615-344-2688 615-344-1851 HCA Healthcare reports FOURTH quarter 2024 results AND PROVIDES 2025 GUIDANCE Nashville, Tenn.

Key Takeaway: HCA Healthcare reported its fourth quarter results for 2024, highlighting a revenue increase to $18.285 billion compared to $17.303 billion in the same quarter of 2023. The company faced challenges, including financial losses tied to hurricanes and a decrease in net income. Nonetheless, HCA's operational performance showed improvements with rising admissions and an overall increase in annual revenues, as well as optimistic guidance for 2025. They also announced a new share repurchase program and declared a quarterly cash dividend, demonstrating ongoing financial strength.

Market Sentiment Analysis

POSITIVE FACTORS

  • HCA Healthcare demonstrated strong growth with revenues increasing from $70.603 billion in 2023 to $72.80-$75.80 billion in guidance for 2025.
  • Same facility admissions increased by 3.0% and same facility emergency room visits rose by 2.4%.
  • A strong cash position with $1.933 billion in cash and equivalents and additional $10 billion share repurchase program announced.

CONCERNS & RISKS

  • Incurred $200 million in losses due to Hurricanes Helene and Milton, impacting revenue.
  • Net income decreased from $1.607 billion in Q4 2023 to $1.438 billion in Q4 2024.

Full Press Release Details

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
INVESTOR CONTACT: MEDIA CONTACT:
Frank Morgan Harlow Sumerford
615-344-2688 615-344-1851
HCA Healthcare reports FOURTH quarter 2024 results
AND PROVIDES 2025 GUIDANCE
Nashville, Tenn., January 24, 2025 – HCA Healthcare, Inc. (NYSE: HCA) today announced financial and operating results for the fourth quarter ended December 31, 2024.
Key fourth quarter metrics (all percentage changes compare 4Q 2024 to 4Q 2023 unless otherwise noted):
We finished 2024 with strong business fundamentals that were consistent with previous quarters, said Sam Hazen, Chief Executive Officer of HCA Healthcare. The first half of the current decade, which ended in 2024, proved to be another period of long-term growth for the company and resulted in operational improvements across key performance indicators and greater value for our patients, employees and shareholders. These accomplishments are a testament to the incredible work of our teams, and position us well for the future.
Revenues in the fourth quarter of 2024 totaled $18.285 billion, compared to $17.303 billion in the fourth quarter of 2023. Net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc. totaled $1.438 billion, or $5.63 per diluted share, compared to $1.607 billion, or $5.93 per diluted share, in the fourth quarter of 2023. Results for the fourth quarter of 2024 include losses on sales of facilities of $195 million, or $0.59 per diluted share, primarily related to the pending sale of a hospital facility in California. Results for the fourth quarter of 2023 include gains on sales of facilities of $7 million, or $0.03 per diluted share.
For the fourth quarter of 2024, Adjusted EBITDA totaled $3.712 billion, compared to $3.618 billion in the fourth quarter of 2023. Adjusted EBITDA is a non-GAAP financial measure. A table providing supplemental information on Adjusted EBITDA and reconciling net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc. to Adjusted EBITDA is included in this release.
Same facility admissions increased 3.0 percent and same facility equivalent admissions increased 3.1 percent in the fourth quarter of 2024, compared to the prior year period. Same facility emergency room visits increased 2.4 percent in the fourth quarter of 2024, compared to the prior year period. Same facility inpatient surgeries increased 2.8 percent, and same facility outpatient surgeries declined 1.3 percent in the fourth quarter of 2024, compared to the same period of 2023. Same facility revenue per equivalent admission increased 2.9 percent in the fourth quarter of 2024, compared to the fourth quarter of 2023.
Year Ended December 31, 2024
Revenues for the year ended December 31, 2024 totaled $70.603 billion, compared to $64.968 billion for the year ended December 31, 2023. Net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc. was $5.760 billion, or $22.00 per diluted share, compared to $5.242 billion, or $18.97 per diluted share, for the year ended December 31, 2023. Results for the year ended December 31, 2024 include gains on sales of facilities of $14 million, or $0.04 per diluted share. Results for the year ended December 31, 2023 included losses on sales of facilities of $5 million, or $0.04 per diluted share.
For 2024, Adjusted EBITDA totaled $13.882 billion, compared to $12.726 billion in 2023. Adjusted EBITDA is a non-GAAP financial measure. A table providing supplemental information on Adjusted EBITDA and reconciling net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc. to Adjusted EBITDA is included in this release.
Balance Sheet and Cash Flows from Operations
As of December 31, 2024, HCA Healthcare, Inc.'s balance sheet reflected cash and cash equivalents of $1.933 billion, total debt of $43.031 billion, and total assets of $59.513 billion. During the fourth quarter of 2024, capital expenditures totaled $1.285 billion, excluding acquisitions. Cash flows provided by operating activities in the fourth quarter of 2024 totaled $2.559 billion, compared to $2.674 billion in the fourth quarter of 2023.
During the fourth quarter of 2024, the Company repurchased 4.739 million shares of its common stock at a cost of $1.700 billion. The Company had $764 million remaining under its repurchase authorization as of December 31, 2024. As of December 31, 2024, the Company had $7.986 billion of availability under its credit facilities.
Share Repurchase Program
The HCA Healthcare, Inc. Board of Directors has authorized an additional share repurchase program for up to $10 billion of the Company's outstanding common stock. Repurchases will be made in accordance with applicable securities laws and may be made at management's discretion from time to time in the open market, through privately negotiated transactions, or otherwise. The repurchase program has no time limit and may be suspended for periods or discontinued at any time.
HCA today announced that its Board of Directors declared a quarterly cash dividend of $0.72 per share on the Company's common stock. The dividend will be paid on March 31, 2025 to stockholders of record at the close of business on March 17, 2025.
The declaration and payment of any future dividend will be subject to the discretion of the Board of Directors and will depend on a variety of factors, including the Company's financial condition, results of operations, and contractual restrictions. Future dividends are expected to be funded by cash balances and future cash flows from operations.
Impact of Hurricanes
During the fourth quarter of 2024, the Company incurred additional expenses and experienced loss of revenues estimated at $200 million, or $0.60 per diluted share, associated with Hurricane Helene's impact on its North Carolina facilities, as well as from Hurricane Milton, which impacted certain facilities in Florida.
For the year ended December 31, 2024, the Company incurred additional expenses and experienced loss of revenues estimated at $250 million, or $0.73 per diluted share, associated with the impact of Hurricanes Helene and Milton on the Company's North Carolina facilities and certain facilities in Florida.
These estimates do not include any insurance recoveries the Company may receive. All facilities impacted by Hurricanes Helene and Milton have resumed normal operations.
Today, the Company issued the following estimated guidance for 2025:
2025 Guidance Range
Revenues $72.80 to $75.80 billion
Net Income Attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc. $5.85 to $6.29 billion
Adjusted EBITDA $14.30 to $15.10 billion
EPS (diluted) $24.05 to $25.85 per diluted share
Capital expenditures for 2025, excluding acquisitions, are estimated to be approximately $5.0 to $5.2 billion.
The Company's guidance contains a number of assumptions, including, among others, the Company's current expectations regarding volume growth coupled with an anticipated mostly stable operating environment, payer mix, and the ongoing impacts of the two major hurricanes, the impact of current and future health care public policy developments, as well as general economic conditions, including inflation, and excludes the impact of items such as, but not limited to, gains or losses on sales of facilities, losses on retirement of debt, legal claims costs and impairment of long-lived assets.
Adjusted EBITDA is a non-GAAP financial measure. A table reconciling forecasted net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc. to forecasted Adjusted EBITDA is included in this release.
The Company's guidance is based on current plans and expectations and are subject to a number of known and unknown uncertainties and risks, including those set forth below in the Company's “Forward-Looking Statements.”
Annual Stockholders' Meeting
The Company's 2025 annual stockholders' meeting will be held virtually on April 24, 2025 at 2:00 p.m. Central Time for stockholders of record as of February 24, 2025.
Earnings Conference Call
HCA Healthcare will host a conference call for investors at 9:00 a.m. Central Time today. All interested investors are invited to access a live audio broadcast of the call via webcast. The broadcast also will be available on a replay basis beginning this afternoon. The webcast can be accessed through the Company's Investor Relations web page at https://investor.hcahealthcare.com/events-and-presentations/default.aspx .
About the Company
As of December 31, 2024, HCA operated 190 hospitals and approximately 2,400 ambulatory sites of care, including surgery centers, freestanding emergency rooms, urgent care centers and physician clinics, in 20 states and the United Kingdom.
Forward-Looking Statements
This press release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws, which involve risks and uncertainties. Forward-looking statements include the Company's financial guidance for the year ending December 31, 2025, as well as other statements that do not relate solely to historical or current facts. Forward-looking statements can be identified by the use of words like “may,” “believe,” “will,” “expect,” “project,” “estimate,” “anticipate,” “plan,” “initiative” or “continue.” These forward-looking statements are based on our current plans and expectations and are subject to a number of known and unknown uncertainties and risks, many of which are beyond our control, which could significantly affect current plans and expectations and our future financial position and results of operations. These factors include, but are not limited to, (1) changes in or related to general economic conditions nationally and regionally in our markets, including inflation and economic and business conditions (and the impact thereof on the economy, financial markets and banking industry); changes in revenues due to declining patient volumes; changes in payer mix (including increases in uninsured and underinsured patients); potential increased expenses related to labor, supply chain or other expenditures; workforce disruptions; supply shortages and disruptions (including as a result of geopolitical disruptions); and the impact of potential federal government shutdowns, (2) the impact of our significant indebtedness and the ability to refinance such indebtedness on acceptable terms, (3) the impact of current and future health care public policy developments and possible changes to other federal, state or local laws and regulations affecting the health care industry, including, but not limited to, the expiration of enhanced premium tax credits for individuals eligible to purchase insurance coverage through federal and state-based health insurance marketplaces, (4) the effects related to the implementation of sequestration spending reductions required under the Budget Control Act of 2011, related legislation extending these reductions, and the potential for future deficit reduction legislation that may alter these spending reductions, which include cuts to Medicare payments, or create additional spending reductions, (5) increases in the amount and risk of collectability of uninsured accounts and deductibles and copayment amounts for insured accounts, (6) the ability to achieve operating and financial targets, attain expected levels of patient volumes and revenues, and control the costs of providing services, (7) possible changes in Medicare, Medicaid and other state programs, including Medicaid supplemental payment programs, Medicaid waiver programs or state directed payments, that may impact reimbursements to
HCA Healthcare, Inc.
Condensed Consolidated Comprehensive Income Statements
(Dollars in millions, except per share amounts)
2024 2023
Amount Ratio Amount Ratio
Revenues $ 18,285 100.0 % $ 17,303 100.0 %
Salaries and benefits 7,917 43.3 7,570 43.7
Supplies 2,793 15.3 2,584 14.9
Other operating expenses 3,873 21.2 3,559 20.7
Equity in earnings of affiliates (10 ) (0.1 ) (28 ) (0.2 )
Depreciation and amortization 856 4.6 789 4.5
Interest expense 528 2.9 491 2.8
Losses (gains) on sales of facilities 195 1.1 (7 ) —
16,152 88.3 14,958 86.4
Income before income taxes 2,133 11.7 2,345 13.6
Provision for income taxes 447 2.5 484 2.8
Net income 1,686 9.2 1,861 10.8
Net income attributable to noncontrolling interests 248 1.3 254 1.5
Net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc. $ 1,438 7.9 $ 1,607 9.3
Diluted earnings per share $ 5.63 $ 5.93
Shares used in computing diluted earnings per share (millions) 255.310 271.186
Comprehensive income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc. $ 1,429 $ 1,673
HCA Healthcare, Inc.
Condensed Consolidated Comprehensive Income Statements
For the Years Ended December 31, 2024 and 2023
(Dollars in millions, except per share amounts)
2024 2023
Amount Ratio Amount Ratio
Revenues $ 70,603 100.0 % $ 64,968 100.0 %
Salaries and benefits 31,170 44.1 29,487 45.4
Supplies 10,755 15.2 9,902 15.2
Other operating expenses 14,819 21.0 12,875 19.8
Equity in earnings of affiliates (23 ) — (22 ) —
Depreciation and amortization 3,312 4.7 3,077 4.7
Interest expense 2,061 2.9 1,938 3.0
Losses (gains) on sales of facilities (14 ) — 5 —
62,080 87.9 57,262 88.1
Income before income taxes 8,523 12.1 7,706 11.9
Provision for income taxes 1,866 2.7 1,615 2.5
Net income 6,657 9.4 6,091 9.4
Net income attributable to noncontrolling interests 897 1.2 849 1.3
Net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc. $ 5,760 8.2 $ 5,242 8.1
Diluted earnings per share $ 22.00 $ 18.97
Shares used in computing diluted earnings per share (millions) 261.806 276.412
Comprehensive income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc. $ 5,798 $ 5,307
HCA Healthcare, Inc.
Condensed Consolidated Balance Sheets
(Dollars in millions)
December 31, September 30, December 31,
2024 2024 2023
ASSETS
Current assets:
Cash and cash equivalents $ 1,933 $ 2,888 $ 935
Accounts receivable 10,751 9,915 9,958
Inventories 1,738 1,776 2,021
Other 1,992 2,083 2,013
16,414 16,662 14,927
Property and equipment, at cost 62,514 61,750 58,548
Accumulated depreciation (33,100 ) (32,703 ) (30,833 )
29,414 29,047 27,715
Investments of insurance subsidiaries 569 553 477
Investments in and advances to affiliates 662 705 756
Goodwill and other intangible assets 10,093 9,982 9,945
Right-of-use operating lease assets 2,131 2,201 2,207
Other 230 309 184
$ 59,513 $ 59,459 $ 56,211
LIABILITIES AND STOCKHOLDERS' EQUITY
Current liabilities:
Accounts payable $ 4,276 $ 4,235 $ 4,233
Accrued salaries 2,304 2,164 2,127
Other accrued expenses 3,899 3,819 3,871
Long-term debt due within one year 4,698 4,682 2,424
15,177 14,900 12,655
Long-term debt, less debt issuance costs and discounts of $369, $378 and $333 38,333 38,283 37,169
Professional liability risks 1,544 1,584 1,557
Right-of-use operating lease obligations 1,863 1,924 1,903
Income taxes and other liabilities 2,041 1,982 1,867
Stockholders' equity:
Stockholders' deficit attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc. (2,499 ) (2,182 ) (1,774 )
Noncontrolling interests 3,054 2,968 2,834
555 786 1,060
$ 59,513 $ 59,459 $ 56,211
HCA Healthcare, Inc.
Condensed Consolidated Statements of Cash Flows
For the Years Ended December 31, 2024 and 2023
(Dollars in millions)
2024 2023
Cash flows from operating activities:
Net income $ 6,657 $ 6,091
Adjustments to reconcile net income to net cash provided by operating activities:
Increase (decrease) in cash from operating assets and liabilities:
Accounts receivable (799 ) (935 )
Inventories and other assets 334 (126 )
Accounts payable and accrued expenses 359 604
Depreciation and amortization 3,312 3,077
Income taxes 22 229
Losses (gains) on sales of facilities (14 ) 5
Amortization of debt issuance costs and discounts 35 35
Share-based compensation 360 262
Other 248 189
Net cash provided by operating activities 10,514 9,431
Cash flows from investing activities:
Purchase of property and equipment (4,875 ) (4,744 )
Acquisition of hospitals and health care entities (266 ) (635 )
Sales of hospitals and health care entities 328 193
Change in investments (115 ) (112 )
Other (5 ) (19 )
Net cash used in investing activities (4,933 ) (5,317 )
Cash flows from financing activities:
Issuances of long-term debt 7,495 3,224
Net change in revolving credit facilities (1,880 ) (1,020 )
Repayment of long-term debt (2,410 ) (909 )
Distributions to noncontrolling interests (711 ) (640 )
Payment of debt issuance costs (67 ) (31 )
Payment of dividends (690 ) (661 )
Repurchase of common stock (6,042 ) (3,811 )
Other (277 ) (246 )
Net cash used in financing activities (4,582 ) (4,094 )
Effect of exchange rate changes on cash and cash equivalents (1 ) 7
Change in cash and cash equivalents 998 27
Cash and cash equivalents at beginning of period 935 908
Cash and cash equivalents at end of period $ 1,933 $ 935
Interest payments $ 1,938 $ 1,892
Income tax payments, net $ 1,844 $ 1,386
HCA Healthcare, Inc.
Operating Statistics
Fourth Quarter For the Years Ended December 31,
2024 2023 2024 2023
Operations:
Number of Hospitals 190 186 190 186
Number of Freestanding Outpatient Surgery Centers* 124 124 124 124
Licensed Beds at End of Period 49,985 49,588 49,985 49,588
Weighted Average Beds in Service 42,705 42,072 42,633 41,873
Reported:
Admissions 559,170 544,554 2,236,595 2,130,728
% Change 2.7 % 5.0 %
Equivalent Admissions 1,007,623 974,561 3,990,085 3,788,434
% Change 3.4 % 5.3 %
Revenue per Equivalent Admission $ 18,146 $ 17,755 $ 17,695 $ 17,149
% Change 2.2 % 3.2 %
Inpatient Revenue per Admission $ 19,737 $ 18,992 $ 19,050 $ 18,201
% Change 3.9 % 4.7 %
Patient Days 2,691,710 2,674,331 10,826,574 10,483,236
% Change 0.6 % 3.3 %
Equivalent Patient Days 4,850,820 4,786,197 19,314,608 18,639,194
% Change 1.4 % 3.6 %
Inpatient Surgery Cases 135,643 132,417 540,704 528,845
% Change 2.4 % 2.2 %
Outpatient Surgery Cases 263,832 270,286 1,024,998 1,044,415
% Change -2.4 % -1.9 %
Emergency Room Visits 2,498,429 2,452,395 9,789,265 9,342,783
% Change 1.9 % 4.8 %
Outpatient Revenues as a Percentage of Patient Revenues 37.9 % 38.4 % 37.8 % 38.3 %
Average Length of Stay (days) 4.814 4.911 4.841 4.920
Occupancy** 71.7 % 72.5 % 72.7 % 72.3 %
Same Facility:
Admissions 552,610 536,350 2,204,148 2,101,839
% Change 3.0 % 4.9 %
Equivalent Admissions 980,330 950,949 3,881,505 3,713,950
% Change 3.1 % 4.5 %
Revenue per Equivalent Admission $ 18,185 $ 17,674 $ 17,625 $ 17,071
% Change 2.9 % 3.2 %
Inpatient Revenue per Admission $ 19,835 $ 19,006 $ 19,085 $ 18,185
% Change 4.4 % 4.9 %
Inpatient Surgery Cases 134,482 130,779 534,330 523,074
% Change 2.8 % 2.2 %
Outpatient Surgery Cases 257,663 261,155 997,043 1,013,752
% Change -1.3 % -1.6 %
Emergency Room Visits 2,466,784 2,410,050 9,642,016 9,192,154
% Change 2.4 % 4.9 %
* Excludes freestanding endoscopy centers (26 centers at December 31, 2024 and 24 centers at December 31, 2023).
** Reflects the rate of occupancy (patient days and observations) based on weighted average beds in service.
HCA Healthcare, Inc.
Supplemental Non-GAAP Disclosures
Operating Results Summary
(Dollars in millions, except per share amounts)
Fourth Quarter For the Years Ended December 31,
2024 2023 2024 2023
Revenues $ 18,285 $ 17,303 $ 70,603 $ 64,968
Net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc. $ 1,438 $ 1,607 $ 5,760 $ 5,242
Losses (gains) on sales of facilities (net of tax) 149 (9 ) (11 ) 12
Net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc., as adjusted (a) 1,587 1,598 5,749 5,254
Depreciation and amortization 856 789 3,312 3,077
Interest expense 528 491 2,061 1,938
Provision for income taxes 493 486 1,863 1,608
Net income attributable to noncontrolling interests 248 254 897 849
Adjusted EBITDA (a) 3,712 $ 3,618 $ 13,882 $ 12,726
Adjusted EBITDA margin (a) 20.3 % 20.9 % 19.7 % 19.6 %
Diluted earnings per share:
Net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc. $ 5.63 $ 5.93 $ 22.00 $ 18.97
Losses (gains) on sales of facilities 0.59 (0.03 ) (0.04 ) 0.04
Net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc., as adjusted (a) $ 6.22 $ 5.90 $ 21.96 $ 19.01
Shares used in computing diluted earnings per share (millions) 255.310 271.186 261.806 276.412
Management and investors review both the overall performance (including net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc., as adjusted, diluted earnings per share, as adjusted, and GAAP net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc.) and operating performance (Adjusted EBITDA) of our health care facilities. Adjusted EBITDA and the Adjusted EBITDA margin (Adjusted EBITDA divided by revenues) are utilized by management and investors to compare our current operating results with the corresponding periods during the previous year and to compare our operating results with other companies in the health care industry. It is reasonable to expect that adjustments, including losses (gains) on sales of facilities and losses on retirement of debt will occur in future periods, but the amounts recognized can vary significantly from period to period, do not directly relate to the ongoing operations of our health care facilities and complicate period comparisons of our results of operations and operations comparisons with other health care companies.
Net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc., as adjusted, diluted earnings per share, as adjusted, and Adjusted EBITDA are not measures of financial performance under GAAP, and should not be considered as alternatives to net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc. as a measure of operating performance or cash flows from operating, investing and financing activities as a measure of liquidity. Because net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc., as adjusted, diluted earnings per share, as adjusted, and Adjusted EBITDA are not measurements determined in accordance with GAAP and are susceptible to varying calculations, net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc., as adjusted, diluted earnings per share, as adjusted, and Adjusted EBITDA, as presented, may not be comparable to other similarly titled measures presented by other companies.
HCA Healthcare, Inc.
Supplemental Non-GAAP Disclosures
2025 Operating Results Forecast
(Dollars in millions, except per share amounts)
For the Year Ending
December 31, 2025
Low High
Revenues $ 72,800 $ 75,800
Net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc. (a) $ 5,850 $ 6,290
Depreciation and amortization 3,495 3,565
Interest expense 2,230 2,320
Provision for income taxes 1,800 1,950
Net income attributable to noncontrolling interests 925 975
Adjusted EBITDA (a) (b) $ 14,300 $ 15,100
Diluted earnings per share:
Net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc. $ 24.05 $ 25.85
Shares used in computing diluted earnings per share (millions) 243.000 243.000
The Company's forecasted guidance is based on current plans and expectations and is subject to a number of known and unknown uncertainties and risks.
Management and investors review both the overall performance (including net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc.) and operating performance (Adjusted EBITDA) of our healthcare facilities. Adjusted EBITDA is utilized by management and investors to compare our current operating results with the corresponding periods during the previous year and to compare our operating results with other companies in the health care industry.
Adjusted EBITDA is not a measure of financial performance under GAAP and should not be considered as an alternative to net income attributable to HCA Healthcare, Inc. as a measure of operating performance or cash flows from operating, investing and financing activities as a measure of liquidity. Because Adjusted EBITDA is not a measurement determined in accordance with GAAP and is susceptible to varying calculations, Adjusted EBITDA, as presented, may not be comparable to other similarly titled measures presented by other companies.

Frequently Asked Questions

What were HCA Healthcare's Q4 2024 revenues?

HCA Healthcare's revenues for Q4 2024 totaled $18.285 billion.

How much net income did HCA report for 2024?

The net income for HCA in 2024 was $5.760 billion.

What is HCA's guidance for 2025 revenue?

HCA's guidance for 2025 revenue ranges from $72.80 to $75.80 billion.

What is the quarterly dividend declared by HCA?

HCA declared a quarterly cash dividend of $0.72 per share.

What impact did hurricanes have on HCA's finances?

Hurricanes Helene and Milton caused an estimated loss of $250 million in 2024.

Last updated: Jan 24, 2025